Houston, we have a problem: we need more application security people. There is a real lack of folks that can test a web or mobile application for security vulnerabilities, write about them well, and then teach the developers how to fix them. It's a problem we have to solve. Verizon says that 86% of the breaches in 2017 had an application security component.So what are we gonna do? Bill, along with a cast of several, has been working on just this problem. He's consulted some of the experts on the topic in the community, and taken on some students of all experience levels, just to mess with their minds and see what works. And what's more - he'll tell you all about it. Spoiler: it worked out OK.