A lot of security is being moved into hardware. This doesn't fix security, it just makes it smaller. Security professionals have a good handle on network and application security, however when it comes to doing hardware testing, things are not as easy as they seem. One of the biggest reasons why hired security teams fail to deliver successful hardware engagements often comes down to deficiencies in scoping. This talks describes several stories of failures during hardware engagements and how you can work with vendors to have successful hardware engagements. This talk will give you the tools to properly scope out engagements that will provide great results and give your client the best bang for their buck.