Our failure to learn from others misfortune leads us down the same path that fellow cyber security practitioners in order to have to learn our lessons the hard way. There is the easy way and there is the hard way. Both will be explored in this conversation, with a focus on how to learn our cyber security lessons the easy way. By intentionally connecting with fellow cyber defenders and actively avoiding the root cause(s) that led to their compromise(s). There is no need to share the details (or pictures), rather a need for us to openly share the things that as a result of incident response cause us to “always” and “never” do so long as we both shall live.